FLYING LESSONS for November 6, 2025

Topics this week include: >> Say it loud >> No free bump >> It’s up to me

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FLYING LESSONS uses recent mishap reports to consider what might have contributed to accidents, so you can make better decisions if you face similar circumstances.  In most cases design characteristics of a specific airplane have little direct bearing on the possible causes of aircraft accidents—but knowing how your airplane’s systems respond can make the difference in your success as the scenario unfolds. So apply these FLYING LESSONS to the specific airplane you fly.  Verify all technical information before applying it to your aircraft or operation, with manufacturers’ data and recommendations taking precedence.  You are pilot in command and are ultimately responsible for the decisions you make.     

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This week’s LESSONS

Let’s go straight to the Debrief this week.

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Debrief

Readers write about recent LESSONS:

Reader and Cirrus instruction thought leader Mike Radomsky writes:

This is good observational evidence that supports the idea of maintaining situational and operational awareness by talking to yourself as if you were working as part of a crew. I’ve found that to be an effective technique for myself and I encourage it with the pilots I teach and with whom I fly. Thank you, Mike.

Frequent Debriefer Arthur Utay asks about last week’s primary topic:

No, I think you get the point but you may not have expressed it fully. First, let’s look at the definitions of turbulence intensity (from avnwx.com):

I doubt you pressed into severe or extreme turbulence, because as the table above suggests these levels of turbulence result in “occupants [being] forced violently against seat belts or shoulder straps” and “unsecured objects are tossed about.” I suspect you do not routinely experience “momentarily out of control” conditions as you likely would in severe or extreme turbulence either. You might not fly routinely into areas of moderate turbulence either—experiencing “definite strains against seat belts or shoulder straps” and “dislodged” objects but not objects being tossed about the cabin. In up to and including moderate turbulence “changes in altitude and/or attitude occur but the aircraft remains in positive control at all times.” 

Like most pilots (myself included) you likely overestimate the severity of turbulence.  Let’s look at it another way: the G forceexperienced by (and in) the aircraft as a result of the turbulence encounter. A “momentarily out of control “airplane may be one that has briefly stalled as a result of encountering a gust or other wind shear. Assuming your indicated airspeed is below VB, the turbulent air penetration speed* when you encounter the shear, the wing will momentarily stall at or below that aircraft’s maximum design load. For Normal category airplanes this is 3.8Gs; for Utility category it is 4.4G. Acrobatic category aircraft are stressed to 6Gs, and for our rotary wing readers helicopters have a maximum design load factor of 3.5Gs. There are exceptions for some individual aircraft models, and there is a maximum negative G load for each category also.

*Most light aircraft manuals do not list a VB. Generally we talk about VA, the Design Maneuvering Speed, in the context of turbulent air penetration. But VA is based maximum, abrupt control movement in one axis of movement only, while VB, if identified, is not so limited and may be lower than maneuvering speed. See the Air Facts Journal article for more on how to use these speeds.

So if you are actually in “severe” turbulence, you are experiencing up to 3.5, 3.8, 4.4 or 6.0G depending on the aircraft you fly. An aircraft I commonly fly is certificated in the Utility category. It also has a G meter on its Primary Flight Display (PFD). I’ve noticed that my threshold of “beginning to notice the bumps” is about 1.2G, and when I think I’m being bounced around pretty badly it’s still no more than just a little above 2Gs at its greatest. In other words, my mind might think the turbulence is worse but my body seems to self-select to avoid turbulence at about half the design load of the airplane…well below VBIt’s up to me to heed this internal warning. Note: an upset might occur below maximum design load but that should allow for recovery at altitude.

Second, think about what the observations and forecasts, cockpit weather displays and what you see out the windscreen are telling you. If there is any indication of lightning then the entire complex is suspect for thunderstorm turbulence, not just the yellow or red. If the clouds are lightning-less cumulous types more than a few thousand feet tall they also mark strong updrafts, probable downdrafts and turbulence where the rising and falling masses meet. 

As I wrote in a 2019 article in Aviation Safety, Dr. David Strahle, “the father of datalink weather,” tells us (with my new FLYING LESSONS emphasis added) in areas of vertical-development clouds or lightning activity:

Why is this? [Strahle’s] research shows that individual storm cells will “share” or “exchange” energy, creating massive areas of instability and turbulence between them that may be invisible to radar…and even to the eye. If there are moderate or greater returns in the storm complex, there’s the chance of extreme turbulence anywhere in it. Dr. Strahle warns that if a thunderstorm complex has enough energy to create yellow or red radar returns, it has the potential to create dangerous turbulence anywhere within or near the cloud.

So what exactly should you stay 20 miles away from? If there’s moderate, heavy or extreme precipitation (yellows, reds or worse) in the group of cells, it’s not safe to be anywhere in their precipitation footprint. Remaining 20 miles clear of that thunderstorm means staying 20 miles or more away from the outside edges of even the light-green radar returns.

If on the other hand your knowledge of the weather system tells you it consists of stratiform clouds, and there is no indication of lightning strikes or vertical cumulus development, it’s generally safe to enter “green” precipitation returns and maybe even some yellow as long as you do so with an immediate way out if needed. Even a “red” return may be navigable below VB if you’re absolutely sure all clouds in the system are stratiform, which may happen regionally and under some conditions. But it would be a rare event to get heavy precipitation without moderate turbulence, or greater. You must know, not just hope, that the ride will be acceptably smooth. Hope is not a good risk management strategy.

Remember also that when it comes to overstressing the airplane you don’t get one free bump…you need to be at or below turbulent air penetration speed before you encounter the first wind shear that results in greater than moderate turbulence. Thanks, Art.

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Disclaimer

FLYING LESSONS uses recent mishap reports to consider what might have contributed to accidents, so you can make better decisions if you face similar circumstances. In most cases design characteristics of a specific airplane have little direct bearing on the possible causes of aircraft accidents—but knowing how your airplane’s systems respond can make the difference in your success as the scenario unfolds. Apply these FLYING LESSONS to the specific airplane you fly.

Verify all technical information before applying it to your aircraft or operation, with manufacturers’ data and recommendations taking precedence. You are pilot in command, and are ultimately responsible for the decisions you make.